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« on: January 15, 2007, 10:37:21 PM »

Sexual Predator
by Tyler Durden

TD on some great misinterpretation

Date Posted: 2003/09/01 03:38:00 PM EDT
Author: TylerDurden
Subject: Sexual Predator Misinterpretation Style

Here's some more stuff that I've been into lately.. I find this stuff is pretty funny, so hopefully some guys can derive some use out of it.

If I had to teach guy game in under 10 minutes, I guess that this is probably what I'd talk about (along with the more important points from the 25 points of not appearing needy, because if you appear needy you're usually blown out.. So say not the whole list, but at least not to peck in, or be too eager to touch or ask questions or have weird manneurisms that look desperate).

The method: Show that girls are sexual predators, and then while chatting, keep going back to showing them why what they're doing is just designed to take advantage of you. That's it.

Necessary props: Badboy(croatian), Style, Kooper, and David D.. I stole and meshed together a bunch of ideas from them, and tinkered to turned into a linear system for keeping girls chasing you from start to lay.

It's pretty basic..

Do it however you want. Here's how I personally do it, but there's a inifinite ways, within the frame itself.


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Step 1:

EXPANDED SEXUAL PREDATOR ROUTINE:

Lay a STRONG humour anchour. They have to be laughing out of their minds, so that you can keep re-using the callback humour through out the pickup.

"You know what? I can't even trust you guys. Girls are predators. Girls are SEXUAL predators! Guys think that they seduce women and have all this power. Yeah right! Girls choose. They choose. The guys just dangle themselves in front of them *thinking* that they made it happen, but they don't realize that its the girl who chose THEM.

Girls are predators.. They hold the cards.. Examine the evidence.

First, when a guy gets mad at his girlfriend, can he strap on his bitch boots, shove up his pushup bra, do up his hair and makeup, and head out to the bar and pull a girl home in under five minutes? Yeah right! It's GIRLS. YOU GUYS have the power to do that, not guys! (wait while girls laugh).. What percentage of guys can do that? Look at them (point at guys).. They're leaning in and touching, making the girls all uncomfortable, but some of the girls like them anyway.. But the guys THINK its that they were aggressive.. So what, like 5% of guys TOPS can do what 100% of girls can do.

Second, girls are the only gender with one organ designed for NOTHING ELSE but sexual pleasure. (wait while girls laugh) And on that organ, there are ten times more nerve endings than anything a guy has. (wait while girls laugh)

That's why, when GIRLS have sex, they go (put hands onto hair, and do the following very convincingly, like Meg Ryan "When Harry met Sally" style) "uhhhhhh.... oooohhh.... uhhhhhhh.." (wait while girls laugh hysterically screaming their heads off)

IDEALLY, THE ROUTINE IS SUPPOSED TO DO THE FOLLOWING:
-sets a humour anchour that can be re-used to keep them giggling throughout the duration of the pickup
-gives you fodder to do "busting them on their manneurisms" stuff.. You can now tease them on their actions, and tease them on what they say, showing that its all designed to take advantage of you
-provides a Kooper-style C&F roleplaying frame, for them to play in, that results in them seducing you
-makes the obstacles/peergroup love you, because they think you're really fun, and it makes them trust you with their friend that you won't be pushy
-establishes a frame that girls are meant to seduce guys, and its normal/cool/fun
-conveys that you know the deal about social interaction
-conveys that you know not to make girls feel uncomfortable by being pushy or trying to "seduce"
-conveys that you probably ARE one of the 5% of guys who can pull a girl home, because just implying that you know what's wrong with other guys' approaches, suggests that you know how to do it right
-mindfucks her into a frame where she's becoming more sexually aggressive


STEP 2 - MISINTERPRETING THEM AS TRYING TO PREY ON YOU:

Point out real IOIs (there will be a lot), as well as MISINTERPRETING things that are not IOIs, in order to mess with girls in the set who are not as into you.

-(point) "Hey, you just licked your lips! (back off like you're scared")

-"Hey, you're touching me.. Hands off the merchandise.. I'm just trying to talk to you.. I just want to talk, and you're just SITTING THERE WAITING for me to talk so I can feel ready for you, and you're not even listening to what I'm really saying... You're just biding your time until I feel comfortable with you."

-"Hey, stop giggling at me.. It's making me feel really good.. Stop it.. Stop being so attracted to me" (this must be in deep attraction, or sounds lame.. if its in deep attraction, it makes her REALIZE that she's attracted"

-"Hey! YOU'RE ATTRACTED TO ME! STOP IT! I JUST WANT TO TALK, STOP BEING SUCH A PREDATOR!"

-"Hey! You guys think its all fun and games.. Like you can just do this, and everything will be FINE.. But you probably didn't even know about the hidden damage you're doing.. Did you know that 99% of all colleged aged males who get date raped commit suicide within 1 year? Did you know that when you're taking advantage of a guy for your own pleasure that he walks around depressed and alone for the rest of his life! I don't want this to happen to me! Stop it! No no no, now you're licking your lips again.. Stop stop stop (engaging the group, so you're saying stop to everyone in the group individually).. Help!"

-For girls who aren't as attracted in the set: "Hey, you're leaning away but your knees are pointing at me.. You're trickier than your friends.. You're trying to go in under the radar but your knees are giving it away... OK she's scaring me the most.."


STEP 3 - JUST CONVEYING PERSONALITY SO THE GIRLS GET TO KNOW YOU, QUALIFYING YOUR TARGET, BUT ALL THE WHILE RE-INITIATING STATE WITH CALLBACK HUMOUR:

The idea is that you're running a normal pickup, but using callback humour and the cocky & playful roleplaying stuff. So this gives you the maneuvrability to run a nice normal conversation, but keeping the interaction charged with this stuff.

-Use "reverse-EV" type stuff, so that she's finding out positive things about you and building trust. The whole pickup lasts usually around 4-7 hours, start to lay. You're supposed to be conveying personality during this time. The accusing-them thing is something you do as their state drops, or when you see a good opening to do so. It's not the entire method, since just teasing won't get you laid except by party girls. With party girls, just tease the fuck out of them, that's it.

-Qualify her to you, and every time you act impressed lean in, and then say "wait a minute.. what are you doing.. I can't talk to you anymore, you're trouble"

-Ask her arbitrary questions about herself, and then pretend like you're hitting buying temperature, but then cutting it off because you're afraid that she'll take advantage of that. "PUA: What's your sign? HB: Libra. PUA: OMG I love you (take hands).... Wait, I can't talk to you anymore.. You're trouble.. Go away (push her away and turn your back on her and face her friends and say "she's trouble")"

-If she does something really impressive, pretend like you freaked out and hit high buying temperature, and jump in and kiss her, then go "aaaah.... what are you doing to me???" and turn around and move away from her like you're scared that she manipulated you to do that.

-Condition her (like Pavlov's dogs) to keep doing things that will seduce you. She'll grab you, etc.. Reward her with kino, or whatever. But then also run away when she escalates it too much. Mindfuck her into trying to seduce you. The girls seem to think that this is really fun, because they feel safe and on their terms, and also they seem to find it a turn-on. Bear in mind, you're coming in super-confident (you opened them, you held court in the set), so its obvious that you have alot going for you.


STEP 4 - LAY LOGISTICS:

-Start acting possibly convinced. Her friends will start trying to convince you to stay, and they'll start qualifying your target saying that "she's safe PUA.. don't worry.. you can trust her.. go with her.." etc etc..

-When you walk home together, don't be too eager to keep the joke going. At the same time, when you get her home, walk past your bedroom, and one last time say "Hey! See this is exactly what I'm talking about.. Wait in the TV room.."

-Then, grab your blankets, and run into the TV room.. Throw them on her like its all funny and jump on the couch in a way that makes her laugh (humour disarms escalation to pickups.. if you escalate a pickup, but make the girl laugh while you're doing it, she'll backwards rationalize that she wanted you to escalate). Then say "C'mere c'mere c'mere.... its cold its cold its cold..." (in a funny way so she laughs that you're basically putting her in a very comprimising position).

-Once she's on top of you, STOP TALKING.. It starts getting heavy.. Breathing starts synchronizing.. You're breathing in her ear maybe and fingers are interlocked and you're getting closer.. Then say "uhhh ohhh.. mmmm... ummm.. this is OK I think... uh oh.." and start kissing her.

-Take it from there.. If the joke is still working (it may be SO PLAYED by this point, but if it is STILL WORKING), feel free to make liberal use of callback humour to disarm any last minute resistance (misinterpret her LMR as her just trying to get you more comfortable)

**NOTE: If the joke has become PLAYED, then don't insist on pursuing it. The whole frame/routine is always good, but don't be routine dependent and insist on pursuing it. If its fading a little bit, just move onto something else. If its working consistently the entire time, then keep using it. Just common sense.


-TD

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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2007, 04:16:40 PM »

Having just read this and taken 5 mins to think bout it I'm thinking about how i can turn this into and easy routine.

After getting onto "girls are predator's"

I'l throw in a simalarity.
Girls are like fisherman....This place is your boat (indicate club/pub) and what your wearing is the bait (she's dressed hot right) and all the guys here are fish in the sea biting and taking your bait (convay hitting on her) but like all fisherman once you've hooked the fish you then check to make sure it's legal size... the trouble is that most of the guys here are snappers... sure they look pretty and are great to eat but thats about it... trouble is while your fishing for snapper you mite hook a marlin. do you know the difference? Snappers are easy to catch and you'll probably get a good meal from them... but a marlin... they take work... lots of hard work... but if you land it all your friends will be impressed and expect you to mount it and show it off at every opportunity..


hmmm... this is not field tested and probably needs lots of work to get right but the aim is to get the girl to relise the simalarity and relise the difference between me (a marlin) and all the other guys (snappers)

i'm guna think about this and try it when i get a chance. Feel free to delop this your own way.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2007, 03:11:16 PM »

Yay! Another fishing analogy. Cheesy

I've come across this one before. Haven't used it as a overall theme for the whole PU like TD suggests, but have thrown it in there a few times. I've found when you call them out for touching you - "You're stroking my leg, I had a feeling you were a bit of player, blahblah" - a lot of girls will quite happily assume the seducer role, seeing how far they can push it, while you play the sexually harrased victim. It's really fun.

Another thing I've tried is letting the roleplay run for a while, then suddenly flip your "victim character" and go totally gunwitch on her. The couple of times I've tried it, the sexual tension SPIKES almost instantly as she is taken by surprise. It's almost as if the role playing was building dormant tension, and suddenly switching the role unleashes it.

I have few ideas about the psychology behind this, how about you guys?

Warning - she can get defensive over how suddenly aroused she has let herself get. One girl actually ran away after realising she was standing with me in the middle of the Dfloor in a trance, laboured breath straining through parted moistened lips. One of the funniest things I've ever seen.
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2007, 08:38:23 PM »

Having just read this and taken 5 mins to think bout it I'm thinking about how i can turn this into and easy routine.

After getting onto "girls are predator's"

I'l throw in a simalarity.
Girls are like fisherman....This place is your boat (indicate club/pub) and what your wearing is the bait (she's dressed hot right) and all the guys here are fish in the sea biting and taking your bait (convay hitting on her) but like all fisherman once you've hooked the fish you then check to make sure it's legal size... the trouble is that most of the guys here are snappers... sure they look pretty and are great to eat but thats about it... trouble is while your fishing for snapper you mite hook a marlin. do you know the difference? Snappers are easy to catch and you'll probably get a good meal from them... but a marlin... they take work... lots of hard work... but if you land it all your friends will be impressed and expect you to mount it and show it off at every opportunity..


hmmm... this is not field tested and probably needs lots of work to get right but the aim is to get the girl to relise the simalarity and relise the difference between me (a marlin) and all the other guys (snappers)

i'm guna think about this and try it when i get a chance. Feel free to delop this your own way.
I'll give you a heads up on a potential problem with this, most girls are not keen fisher(wo)men and will not know the difference between a snapper and a marlin (or even worse, not even know they are fishes). Don't let this stop you though, you can either plough through it or even use it as a chance to DHV by showing your fishing knowledge to her.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2007, 10:09:19 PM »

hmmm... mite go with fishes and sharks then.. most women mite know the difference... or i'l take them to kelly tarltons and show them the difference.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2007, 12:46:13 AM »

If you take a girl to kelly tarltons here is a random little story to tell her, there was a yellow "beware of sharks" sign on the shark tanks. It went missing, and was found earlier this year stuck to a signpost on a north shore beach as if it was a real valid sign! The council has since taken it down.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2007, 01:16:26 AM »

I'll give you a heads up on a potential problem with this, most girls are not keen fisher(wo)men and will not know the difference between a snapper and a marlin (or even worse, not even know they are fishes). Don't let this stop you though, you can either plough through it or even use it as a chance to DHV by showing your fishing knowledge to her.

A girl who would consider fishing knowledge a DHV? Sounds like the girl off the Speights ad... Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2007, 03:43:59 AM »

Don't view it like that, if you portray it right being knowledgeable about any topic could be a DHV.
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2007, 04:19:33 PM »

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the Speights girl. It's a hard road finding the perfect woman, son. If you look at the younger Speight's lad, he shows the perfect attitude - cool, calm condfidence and the willingness to walk away. Notice how Shazza eats it up everytime.
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